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11/11/20 David Swanson: Leaving World War II Behind

11/11/20 David Swanson: Leaving World War II Behind
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Scott interviews author and peace activist David Swanson in honor of Veterans’ Day, or Armistice Day, as it was originally known. Swanson begins by describing the way World War II has become the justification for just about every use of military force by the United States since then. This particular part of American history has made an impression on many people that war can be necessary and good, and that America can be the world’s police force. In a new book, Swanson tries to shift that conversation, both taking his readers back to the circumstances that gave rise to World War II, and also dispelling many of the myths about the war. In particular, he tells the little-known history of U.S. indifference toward—and, even worse, cooperation with—the worst of the Nazi regime, arguing that the real reasons for fighting the war were much less noble. Finally, even if the unique evil of Hitler and the Nazis could justify World War II (an argument Swanson doesn’t buy), that still wouldn’t validate the arguments for why America has to join in any other wars, which clearly fall short of the unique circumstances of Nazi Germany.

Discussed on the show:

Leaving World War II Behind

Wilson’s War: How Woodrow Wilson’s Great Blunder Led to Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, and World War II

Tomorrow, the World: The Birth of U.S. Global Supremacy

Slavery by Another Name: The Re-Enslavement of Black Americans from the Civil War to World War II
Day Of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor

The Sovereign State of ITT
IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance Between Nazi Germany and America’s Most Powerful Corporation-Expanded Edition

Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler

American Swastika: The Shocking Story of Nazi Collaborators in Our Midst from 1933 to the Present Day

Trading With the Enemy
Human Smoke: The Beginnings of World War II, the End of Civilization
The Devil’s Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America’s Secret Government

I Paid Hitler

David Swanson is an author, activist, journalist, radio host, and Nobel Peace Prize Nominee. He is the author of War is a Lie, When the World Outlawed War and Leaving World War II Behind. Find him on Twitter @davidcnswanson.

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Scott Horton

Scott Horton is director of the Libertarian Institute, editorial director of, host of Antiwar Radio on Pacifica, 90.7 FM KPFK in Los Angeles, California and podcasts the Scott Horton Show from this website. He’s the author of the 2017 book, Fool’s Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan. Visit

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