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ELL 272: The Kibbe on Kitties Debate

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Matt Kibbe of Free the People and Kibbe on Liberty joins Brian for some drinks, politalk and a debate on which is more libertarian: Cats or Dogs? Dr. Calum Nicholson drops in at the very end as well! Don’t miss a bonus 30 mins will all of us by joining our Patreon or Locals.

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